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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2009, 01:09:55 pm »
Abel vs blanka = 6 : 4

Put that in mind , Once you have ultra , theres nothing a blanka can do, Focus blanka's Rainbow ball, den falling sky or do wat ever you want, If he light Rolls, use lp to stop him, Same as balrog. Heh.
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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2009, 01:59:01 pm »
for the console players at home heres an interesting trick for abel vs seth as performed by jwong in wcg =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaD_oFxtdBI&feature=related


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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2009, 12:31:11 pm »
Abel playas ..  Share a trick or 2 .. I think I'm under performing Abel .. My match against ryus are bad .. Help out . On what shud I do .. What shud I not .. And another thing .. Bisons a bi**h to Abel to.. Teach me some match ups for them .. Let's talk about
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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2009, 12:32:06 pm »
I'm not really an Abel user. But I came across this vid. I orgas-ed at the ending. Hope this provides a tip or 2 for all those Abel players out there. Enjoy! :D

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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2009, 10:43:17 am »
Abel playas ..  Share a trick or 2 .. I think I'm under performing Abel .. My match against ryus are bad .. Help out . On what shud I do .. What shud I not .. And another thing .. Bisons a bi**h to Abel to.. Teach me some match ups for them .. Let's talk about
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D**n you Sbk .. LOL!

Ya bison is a bitch to Abel imo... But I read on Mago's blog, he said that the only 3 disadvantage match up is Akuma, Zangief and Rufus. Abel is a strong character from what he said. Mago is Master rank Abel in less than a month of play  :o

I havent lost to any Abel with Bisons. Maybe can research abit ba.
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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2009, 12:27:55 pm »
ABEL PLAYERS, GUIDE ME ON RYU AND AKUMA MATCHUP

And Wat if your opponents ryu is like the daigo from bugis, The number 1 yomi king, how can you secure more wins. ?

and i guess im bad against this 2 cause i use to play balrog Who have armour that could Dash thru almost any shit, But abel,  yOu roll  = Slam , You jump = Show in the ass .

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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2009, 09:53:16 pm »
use wheel kik to zone ryus..... coz sometime when they try to poke wif cr.mk, the wheel kik will hit them.... u can try to punish their light shoryuken wif cr mp, rekka combo. cr mks and elbow for anti-air..

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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2009, 12:56:30 am »
4 observations after watching grandmasters tearing it up at bigbox, more than 20 matches each

- rolling must be perfected, for both offense and defense. they have very specific setups after each scenario 1. normal throw 2. reverse normal throw 3. skyfall 4. COD to really beef up the mixup game. this is something i wish to share and discuss in more details with fellow abel and non-abel players (so they know what to expect too).

- 100% combo execution
every chance they got to punish, they punish with 100% accuracy. so to be really effective with abel we have to get our combos down. 1 combo hurts alot.

- use of forward MK
these guys get it right majority of the time, how and why I have no idea, something to explore. after dash forward
1. block low then high quickly, react to what's next
2. reverse normal throw
3. tornado
4. LK roll
5. d.LP into poke strings, or link to s.MP->COD
6. s.HP->COD

- low footsies
they catch alot alot alot of players not blocking low. so usage of the sweep and the d.LK->s.HP->COD must be in your gameplan.

alot of the above is 废话  but is really useful.


clinton in the ryu matchups i see the grandmasters very often jump back HP to reset the situation. spacing is so important in this one :(

the akuma matchups are really tough
- s.LK must be often used to poke.
- after their farking s.HK a good option is to jump FORWARD
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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2009, 08:38:05 pm »
well i have been using abel for quite sometimes nowadays , what i feel is

Against akuma , i haven play with good akumas yet , so no comment

Against Ryu
other than what cody says
1.41236 ex lp+mp IS A VERY USEFUL MOVE , cos ryu can't do c.mk hadoken , u can
use this move out of block string
2.dash forward grab , this IS A VERY FAST MOVE , abel dash i realise is so damn fast
, u can also use dash to chase ryu running away with hurricane kick.
Another choice to catch ryu running hurricane kick is ultra
3.Ryu like to mash srk out of abels attack , to use abel effecfectly when attacking ,
u have to constantly beware of his srk.

Thats about all i know , hope it helps
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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2009, 12:43:51 pm »
guys, has any of you had situation abel mirror match?

I got confused when comes to Tornado throw battle. Which one will win if 2 abels throw TT together? Sometimes reverlsal TT win, sometime lose, sometimes lose againts EX TT (weird?)

Still kinda confuse with the concept this throw cannot be throw, but when this throw being execute together, can someone explain why one got thrown than the other one?

(issit becoz the 2 frame active?)

thx before

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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2009, 04:33:07 pm »
guys, has any of you had situation abel mirror match?

I got confused when comes to Tornado throw battle. Which one will win if 2 abels throw TT together? Sometimes reverlsal TT win, sometime lose, sometimes lose againts EX TT (weird?)

Still kinda confuse with the concept this throw cannot be throw, but when this throw being execute together, can someone explain why one got thrown than the other one?

(issit becoz the 2 frame active?)

thx before


Light TT beats all. Ex Beats Normals , Mid also beats normals , Heavy most dmg.

Correct me if wrong.

i dun think you have to worry  about mirror matches, Worry about your worse matchups. Lol

anyway , Abels out there, Bring reset into your gameplan.

it really helps confusing your opponents alot.
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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2009, 03:05:07 am »
i do resets, SBK shoot me down leh haha .... go for guaranteed damage he say.

it's really situational and character-specific.
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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2009, 12:35:57 pm »
i do resets, SBK shoot me down leh haha .... go for guaranteed damage he say.

it's really situational and character-specific.

I Do resets on giefs , how you get Shot is because you stay grounded after a reset. Do a neutral jump or a crossup jump after your reset ,

If he does lariat Pray you did a Neutral jump, Stuff it with ,JLK . if you did a Well-positioned JHK, you can combo into a next reset.

If he whiffed spd and just nice you did crossup after reset, There goes another Combo.

But never do resets On masher-lariating-SPD-no Giefs. this species of gief is the most dangerous. 

And when Mark says go for guaranteed dmg, Means , "Yes la , No reset = Less stress, and hes just gonna do Fmk Links. "
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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2009, 12:40:16 pm »
I Do resets on giefs , how you get Shot is because you stay grounded after a reset. Do a neutral jump or a crossup jump after your reset ,

If he does lariat Pray you did a Neutral jump, Stuff it with ,JLK . if you did a Well-positioned JHK, you can combo into a next reset.

If he whiffed spd and just nice you did crossup after reset, There goes another Combo.

But never do resets On masher-lariating-SPD-no Giefs. this species of gief is the most dangerous. 

And when Mark says go for guaranteed dmg, Means , "Yes la , No reset = Less stress, and hes just gonna do Fmk Links. "

I think that resets are damn dangerous against Gief scrubs who poh spd or ultra, or worse missed ultra into ex spds or lariats...  :)

Btw, gg with you on psn yesterday man... I am starting to go back to the basics with Honda...  :)
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Re: Abel tornado roll roll roll~!
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2009, 12:43:46 pm »
ya dangerous to scrub giefs, yeah nice games.
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